Froeming, Edward

Other Events:

• 1900 Census: 1900, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• 1910 Census: 1910, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• WWI Draft Registration Card: 12 Sep 1918
• 1920 Census: 1920, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• 1930 Census: 1930, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• 1940 Census: 1940, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• Obituary: 16 Mar 1950; Appleton Post Crescent

Notes:

1900 Census:
Wm Freming40
Bertha Freming29
George Freming5
Ester Freming4
Edward Freming6/12

1910 Census:
William Froeming51
Bertha Froeming39
George Froeming16
Esther Froeming15
Mildred Froeming10
Edward Froeming9

WWI Draft Registration Card:
Name:Edward Rudolph Froeming
County:Outagamie
State:Wisconsin
Birth Date:21 Nov 1899
Race:White
Draft Board:1

1920 Census:
Ben Kohasky64
Frances Kohasky55
William J Kohasky30
Gertrude Kohasky26
Laura Kohasky24
Rene Kohasky22
Bernice Kohasky6
Edward Froenning20

1930 Census:
Edward Froeming30
Gertrude Froeming34
Beatrice Froeming6
Junior E Froeming5
Bernard Kohasky75
Reno J Kohasky31

1940 Census:
Edward Froeming40
Gertrude Froeming42
Beatrice Froeming16
Edward Froeming15

Obituary:
FroemingEdward R.11/21/18993/16/1950Post Crescent3/16/195016

Edward married Kohasky, Gertrude "Agnes" 31 Aug 1922, St. Joseph Catholic Church, Appleton, Wisconsin, USA. Gertrude (daughter of Kohasky, Bernard and Zinsmeister, Frances) was born 23 Apr 1893, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA; died 4 Dec 1948, , Outagamie County, Wisconsin, USA; was buried , Highland Memorial Park Cemetery, Appleton, Wisconsin, USA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Residence: 1932, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• Residence: 1934, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• Obituary: Aft 25 Jul 1993; Appleton Post Crescent

Notes:

Description: Her Parents married in 1922 years after her birth so Bernice is either a child from another relationship or a previous marriage or another mother named Gertrude who married a Froeming or she changed her name from Kahosky to Froeming & referred to Ed & Gertrude as her parents. . But then why does she not show as Froeming in 1930 census?

Notice HERE: 1920 Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA Find a place location associated with a Birth, Death, Burial, Marriage, Divorce, or other Event, it is associated with your specific person record.
Ben Kohasky64
Frances Kohasky55
William J Kohasky30
Gertrude Kohasky26
Laura Kohasky24
Rene Kohasky22
Bernice Kohasky6
Edward Froenning20

THERE IS NO BERNICE FROEMING--HER SUPPOSED FATHER WAS NOT MARRIED YET. when you go to 1930 census it shows no Bernice Froeming. I checked 1930 census for any Bernice Froeming b betw 1911 & 1915 living in WI--None listed. I cannot look up marriage of 1934 since papers stop at 1932. Cannot look up any obit pre 1999 for Appleton.

Family History Researcher:
Jay, First off, I apologize for having Bernice's birthday wrong. I had 9/12/1913 and it should be 9/22/1913.
Bernice is and will continue to be somewhat of a mystery to me. While I believe she is Gertrude's daughter, I have doubts that her father is Edward Froeming.
In the 1920 census, Edward Froeming was living with the Kohasky family. Bernice carried the last name Kohasky at that time and is listed as Bernard's granddaughter. This was two years before Gertrude and Edward were married.
When Laura and William Kohasky died in 1920 Bernice is listed as a sibling, which would make her Gertrude's sibling. I doubt that Bernice is their sibling. They may have written is that way to keep up "appearances", but that's just a guess on my part.
Bernice is listed as Gertrude and Edward Froeming's daughter after they are married. This may have been done for social purposes as Edward would have been Bernice's step-daughter. Bernice's 1993 obituary listed Edward and Gertrude Kohasky Froeming Sr. as her parents. No matter who her biological father was, Edward would have been the one she recognized as her father.
Gertrude may have had Bernice while out of town, possibly with other family members, but have no fully explored this angle yet as there are a few places to chose from. Honestly, I'm not sure where to start and don't know what it would prove to find her birth record at this point.
I tried unsuccessfully to find her birth record at the Outagamie County register of deeds. First I looked up all "K" names for 1913, then looked for all birth records for September 1913 under every letter in the alphabet and found 2 people were born on that date in Outagamie County, one was male and the other record bore wasn't even close to what I was looking for. I did check the entire month for any Bernice and Agnes under every letter in the alphabet and came up with nothing.
Edward and Gertrude Froeming are buried at Highland Memorial Park in Appleton, Outagamie, WI. Bernice is buried with both of her husbands at St. Mary Cemetery in Menasha, Winnebago County, Wisconsin. All three share the same headstone.
I have a feeling that finding more about Bernice's parentage could lead to more problems than it's worth.
If Edward is her biological father, then that would make him about 14 when she was born. Which even back then would have been frowned on as Gertrude was about 20.
If Edward isn't her biological father then that would make for some unpleasant surprises for descendents in that family line. I don't feel it's my place to change the family tree that much and will leave it up to that family to make those changes. Either way, it feels like something that could cause a lot of hard feelings and I don't want that to happen.
Will be sending other headstone pictures either today or tomorrow. Thank you again for everything you do.
Lori

Bernice married Schoepel, Raymond 2 Jun 1934, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA. Raymond (son of Schoepel, Heinrich Louis and Nettekoven, Theodora "Dora" Nettekoven) was born 21 Sep 1907, Menasha, Winnebago, Wisconsin, USA; died 4 Jun 1947, Menasha, Winnebago, Wisconsin, USA; was buried , St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Menasha, Wisconsin, USA. [Group Sheet]

Bernice married Weiss, Roland A. 22 Sep 1953, , Winnebago County, Wisconsin, USA. Roland was born 2 Jun 1899, Mayville, Dodge, Wisconsin, USA; died 17 May 1987, Neenah, Winnebago, Wisconsin, USA; was buried , St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Menasha, Wisconsin, USA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Education - High School: 1941, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• Residence: 1951, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• Death Record - Civil: 2 Sep 1976

Notes:

Education - High School:
Appleton High School Class of 1941

Residence:
Name:Beatrice Kuhn
Gender:F (Female)
Residence Year:1951
Street Address:1702 W Reeve3-30l6
Residence Place:Appleton, Wisconsin
Spouse: Arley H Kuhn
Publication Title:Appleton, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1951

Death Record - Civil:
Name:Beatrice Kuhn
Age:52
Sex:F (Female)
Birth Date:abt 1924
Death Date:9 Sep 1976
Location:Eton (May be abbreviated)
Certificate:028012

Beatrice married Kuhn, Arley Aft 1942. Arley (son of Kuhn, Oscar Christian and Scholz, Mabel) was born 27 Aug 1922, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA; died 7 Dec 1992, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Military Service: Between 1943 and 1946; WWII - US Navy
• Obituary: 18 Mar 2012; Appleton Post Crescent

Notes:

Obituary:
Ed Froeming, age 87, passed away at Cherry Meadows on March 16, 2012, following a lengthy illness. He was born in Appleton on February 19, 1925, son of the late Edward and Gertrude (Kohasky) Froeming. On September 20, 1958, Ed married Donna Hipp at St. Joseph Catholic Church in Appleton. From 1943 until 1946, Ed proudly served his country during World War II in the Asian/Pacific Theater as a member of the United States Navy on the USS Baltimore CA68 and was a member of Grand Chute Post #8642 of the VFW. As a young man he worked for Marathon Printing, but most will remember Ed for his long career as a clerk at the Appleton Post Office. He enjoyed gardening, woodworking, and RVing across the country as well as camping with his family at Jellystone, Evergreen, and Huckleberry Campgrounds.
Ed is survived by his wife: Donna Froeming of Appleton; three children: Jim (Lori) Froeming of Appleton and her son Bill; Sara Froeming of Appleton; and Dave (Debbie) Froeming of Appleton and their children Nathan and Natalie; a sister-in-law: Charlotte Hipp of Appleton; as well as nieces, and nephews, other relatives and friends. He was preceded in death by his parents, sisters Bernice (Roland) Weiss and Beatrice (Arley) Kuhn, brothers-in-law: Eugene Hipp and Sheldon Hipp, and a sister-in-law Shirley (August) Pollack.
The funeral liturgy for Ed will be held at 4:00 PM on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 at ST. THOMAS MORE CATHOLIC CHURCH, 1810 N. McDonald Street in Appleton with Fr. Gerald R. Falk officiating. Full military honors will immediately follow, and entombment will be in Highland Memorial Park. Friends may call at the church on Wednesday afternoon from 2:00 PM until 3:45 PM. Online condolences may be expressed at www.wichmannfargo.com
To Dad: I will miss you dearly and know you are enjoying peace and happiness in heaven. Thank you for all the traveling memories and fun times camping. Just remember, my coconut cream pie beats all!
Daddy's little girl, Sara.
Wichmann Funeral Home 537 N. Superior Street Appleton 739-1231
Published in Appleton Post-Crescent from March 18 to March 20, 2012

Edward married Hipp, Donna 20 Sep 1958. Donna was born 17 May 1929, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA; died 26 Jun 2014. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Alt. Birth: 7 Jun 1944; Alt. Birth

Notes:

GERALD - SCHOEPEL 07-JUN-44 54952

Alt. Birth:
Menasha, Winnebago Co, Wisconsin

Gerald married VanLankvelt, Nancy (daughter of VanLankvelt, Peter and VandenBoogart, Lorraine) [Group Sheet]