Ramsay, Bertin

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• Reference Number: 2724
• 1880 Census: 1880, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA; Ed 114, page 13, line 19
• Immigration: 30 Apr 1883, New York, New York, New York, USA; on the Britannic
• 1905 State Census: 1905, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA; Ward 1, Sheet 25, page 49, Line 42
• Biography: 1911; History of Outagamie County, Wisconsin Page 1031

Notes:

1880 Census:
Bertin Ramsey 30

Immigration:
Name: Bertin Ramsey
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1883
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: United States of America
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: American
Ship Name: Britannic
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Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_464
List Number: 489
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

1905 State Census:
Bertin Ramsey 52
Kate G Ramsey 46
Hallie E Ramsey 20
Ethel K Ramsey 19
Emma Fomaschky 24
Lydie Jack 22
Emma Schwandt 27
John Cockayne 44

Biography:
BERTIN RAMSAY, deceased, who was for many years engaged in business in Appleton, was born October 13, 1850, in Cheltenham, England, and was a member of one of the oldest and most honored families of Scotland, descended from Sir John Ramsay, Knight of Balmain and Fasque, County Kincardine, who was created by James III a lord of parliament in 1433, and sat under the title of Lord Bothwell. Adhering, however, to his unfortunate sovereign, against whom the nobles of Scotland rebelled, his lordship was outlawed, and his estates subjected to confiscation, in 1488, by the first parliament of James IV, while that monarch conferred the dignity of Earl of Bothwell upon Hepburn, Lord Hailes, whose descendant became the third husband of Mary, Queen of Scots, and was the last of his family that enjoyed the peerage. In 1498, the disgraced lord received, however, a royal pardon, but under the simple designation of John Ramsay, and he obtained at the same time some lands in the counties of Forfar and Wigtoun, which favors were followed by a charter, in 1510, of the Barony of Balmain. The grandson of this personage, Sir Gilbert Ramsay, was followed by Sir Alexander Ramsay, at whose death the title passed to Sir Thomas Ramsay, from him to Sir Alexander Burnett Ramsay, and from the latter to Sir Alexander Ramsay, the father of Bertin Ramsay. Bertin Ramsay received his education in Cheltenham college, in England, and in 1877 came to Appleton with Mr. Henry Hewitt of Menasha and his cousins, Falkland and Duncan MacKinnon. Mr. Ramsay soon became interested in lumber, furnishing the means for the erection of a mill, and decided to remain in this country. In his first venture he was associated with Charles Jones, and later they erected a mill at Menominee, Michigan, where they continued in business until 1896, and in this year the Wisconsin Malt and Grain Company was founded and a large plant erected. Mr. Ramsay was associated with this concern until his death, which occurred June 23, 1907. He was one of the leading members of the Episcopal Church, and was one of the principal contributors when the handsome new church of All Saints was erected, and served for several years as a warden. He was a Blue Lodge Mason and a member of all of the leading Appleton clubs. He was remarkably fond of his home, and was a man whose death is a distinct loss to his adopted city. On June 29, 1881, Mr. Ramsay was united in marriage with Kate Graveraet King, the estimable daughter of Daniel Webster and Sarah Ann (Graveraet) King, who settled in Green Bay and was there engaged in a drug business. Henry Graveraet, the father of Mrs. King, was a. native of Holland and became an early settler among the Indians, learning nine different Indian languages and making numerous treaties with them, and the United States Government. He married Charlotte Isabella Livingston, who learned three Indian languages and was idolized by the Indians, who called her the Daughter of the Little White Chief. Mr. and Mrs. Ramsay had two children: Hallie Ellen, who married R. B. Watson, a New York mining engineer, has one daughter, Patricia.; and Ethel Katherine, living at home. Both are graduates of Grafton Hall, Fond du Lac, and of Dresden, Germany, where they spent several years studying music, specializing on the violin and piano.

Bertin married Graveraet, Kate 30 Jun 1881. Kate (daughter of Graveraet, Henry and Livingston, Charlotte Isabelle) was born Abt 1859; died Abt 1918. [Group Sheet]

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• Reference Number: 2724
• Birth - Church Record: 14 Oct 1884
• 1905 State Census: 1905, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
• 1940 Census: 1940, Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, USA

Notes:

Birth - Church Record:
Name:Hallie E Ramsey
[Hallie E Ramsay]
Birth Date:14 Oct 1884
Birth Place:Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin
Gender:Female
Race:White
Father's name:Bertin Ramsay
Father's Birth Place:England
Mother's name:Katie King
Mother's Birth Place:Green Bay
FHL Film Number:1305137

1905 State Census:
Bertin Ramsey52
Kate G Ramsey46
Hallie E Ramsey20
Ethel K Ramsey19
Emma Fomaschky24
Lydie Jack22
Emma Schwandt27
John Cockayne44

1940 Census:
E R Watson63
Hallie Watson58
Alice Armes23
Norma J Armes3

Hallie married Watson, R. B. Aft 1905. R. died 30 Jan 1924, Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA. [Group Sheet]

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• Reference Number: 2724
• Birth - Church Record: 30 Apr 1886
• Passport: 7 Feb 1911

Notes:

Birth - Church Record:
Name:Ramsey
Birth Date:30 Apr 1886
Birth Place:Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin
Gender:Female
Race:White
Father's name:Burtin Ramsey
Father's Birth Place:Wisconsin
Mother's name:Katy King
Mother's Birth Place:Wis.
FHL Film Number:1305137

Passport:
Name:Ethel Katherine Ramsay
Birth Date:30 Apr 1886
Birth Place:Appleton, Wisconsin
Age:25
Passport Issue Date:7 Dec 1911
Passport Includes a Photo:No
Residence:Appleton, Wisconsin

Ethel married Park, Hugh Aft 1905. Hugh died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

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• Reference Number: 2724